Comments on: It’s all in the database http://www.wordsdept.co.uk/2008/04/20/its-all-in-the-database/ <h2>A words-based weblog by Manchester journalist David Quinn</h2> Fri, 19 Feb 2010 12:52:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: spafon7e http://www.wordsdept.co.uk/2008/04/20/its-all-in-the-database/comment-page-1/#comment-34653 spafon7e Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:40:46 +0000 http://www.wordsdept.co.uk/2008/04/20/its-all-in-the-database/#comment-34653 I too detest the attitude of the Crapita. But that's insufficient reason for me not to pay the fee. The fee is cheap at the price. And rather that than even more ads and Murdoch. I too detest the attitude of the Crapita. But that’s insufficient reason for me not to pay the fee.

The fee is cheap at the price. And rather that than even
more ads and Murdoch.

]]> By: Dave http://www.wordsdept.co.uk/2008/04/20/its-all-in-the-database/comment-page-1/#comment-11312 Dave Sat, 13 Dec 2008 11:14:31 +0000 http://www.wordsdept.co.uk/2008/04/20/its-all-in-the-database/#comment-11312 I'm looking at houses on Rightmove, but every few seconds I'm getting threatened because my address is "all in the database". I've never owned a TV and really detest the threatening attitude of TVL. If I had one, I'd pay without fuss, but I resent the implication that I am an outlaw because I don't pay the protection money. I’m looking at houses on Rightmove, but every few seconds I’m getting threatened because my address is “all in the database”. I’ve never owned a TV and really detest the threatening attitude of TVL. If I had one, I’d pay without fuss, but I resent the implication that I am an outlaw because I don’t pay the protection money.

]]> By: rak http://www.wordsdept.co.uk/2008/04/20/its-all-in-the-database/comment-page-1/#comment-5946 rak Sun, 14 Sep 2008 20:26:03 +0000 http://www.wordsdept.co.uk/2008/04/20/its-all-in-the-database/#comment-5946 support from a strange quarter: " <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1055523/Noel-Edmonds-I-wont-pay-TV-licence-threatening-BBC-adverts.html" rel="nofollow">'I won't pay TV licence because of 'threatening' BBC adverts</a>" support from a strange quarter:
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‘I won’t pay TV licence because of ‘threatening’ BBC adverts“

]]> By: Robin http://www.wordsdept.co.uk/2008/04/20/its-all-in-the-database/comment-page-1/#comment-3056 Robin Wed, 07 May 2008 08:31:57 +0000 http://www.wordsdept.co.uk/2008/04/20/its-all-in-the-database/#comment-3056 'And trails are not advertising are they? The BBC doesn’t get paid for them.' What a bizarrely literal interpretation of my point. ‘And trails are not advertising are they? The BBC doesn’t get paid for them.’

What a bizarrely literal interpretation of my point.

]]> By: Sean http://www.wordsdept.co.uk/2008/04/20/its-all-in-the-database/comment-page-1/#comment-3053 Sean Mon, 05 May 2008 06:28:06 +0000 http://www.wordsdept.co.uk/2008/04/20/its-all-in-the-database/#comment-3053 That's not quite true, Baz. The BBC has tended to use a commixture of threats, blandishments and shameless self-aggrandising in order to coerce us to pay the licence fee for quite some time. Most recently we've had those smug 'This is what we do' trails between programmes but you'll probably recall a similar tack - 'Because of the unique way the BBC is funded...' - employed in the 1990s. My own take, for what it is worth, can be found <a href="http://errorgorilla.wordpress.com/2008/05/04/its-all-the-in-the-database-or-people-who-dont-pay-their-tv-licence-against-the-nazis/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. That’s not quite true, Baz. The BBC has tended to use a commixture of threats, blandishments and shameless self-aggrandising in order to coerce us to pay the licence fee for quite some time. Most recently we’ve had those smug ‘This is what we do’ trails between programmes but you’ll probably recall a similar tack – ‘Because of the unique way the BBC is funded…’ – employed in the 1990s.

My own take, for what it is worth, can be found here.

]]> By: Martha http://www.wordsdept.co.uk/2008/04/20/its-all-in-the-database/comment-page-1/#comment-3041 Martha Thu, 01 May 2008 21:41:05 +0000 http://www.wordsdept.co.uk/2008/04/20/its-all-in-the-database/#comment-3041 thank you, thank you. I put 'it's all in the database' into a search engine because I hate it so and it's so nasty, and the first thing I read is this. I am so glad you've written it. It's spot on. Having said all that, are people who don't pay their licence going to respond to a TV advert at all? Maybe they should spend all the advertising budget to pay sinister people in blue tracksuits to really go round to their houses (which they know about from their database) and take their televisions away. Anyway, well done for making the point in the first place. thank you, thank you. I put ‘it’s all in the database’ into a search engine because I hate it so and it’s so nasty, and the first thing I read is this. I am so glad you’ve written it. It’s spot on. Having said all that, are people who don’t pay their licence going to respond to a TV advert at all? Maybe they should spend all the advertising budget to pay sinister people in blue tracksuits to really go round to their houses (which they know about from their database) and take their televisions away. Anyway, well done for making the point in the first place.

]]> By: Baz http://www.wordsdept.co.uk/2008/04/20/its-all-in-the-database/comment-page-1/#comment-3040 Baz Thu, 01 May 2008 14:56:26 +0000 http://www.wordsdept.co.uk/2008/04/20/its-all-in-the-database/#comment-3040 The people who don't pay are not likely to respond to the gentle, lovey dovey ad you suggest. What TV Licencing trails have done in the past is inform peole about how they could pay, direct debit etc making it easier. But those who continue to avoid payment aren't going to respond by being shown the elephant off of Blue Peter. And trails are not advertising are they? The BBC doesn't get paid for them. The people who don’t pay are not likely to respond to the gentle, lovey dovey ad you suggest. What TV Licencing trails have done in the past is inform peole about how they could pay, direct debit etc making it easier. But those who continue to avoid payment aren’t going to respond by being shown the elephant off of Blue Peter. And trails are not advertising are they? The BBC doesn’t get paid for them.

]]> By: Stuart http://www.wordsdept.co.uk/2008/04/20/its-all-in-the-database/comment-page-1/#comment-3006 Stuart Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:07:42 +0000 http://www.wordsdept.co.uk/2008/04/20/its-all-in-the-database/#comment-3006 Fear really is the key. The government is at it, the BBC is at it. Database this, database that. Wait until they start marching up and down the streets with their databases, dragging "offenders" out to be processed. Fear really is the key. The government is at it, the BBC is at it. Database this, database that. Wait until they start marching up and down the streets with their databases, dragging “offenders” out to be processed.

]]> By: Robin http://www.wordsdept.co.uk/2008/04/20/its-all-in-the-database/comment-page-1/#comment-2994 Robin Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:09:26 +0000 http://www.wordsdept.co.uk/2008/04/20/its-all-in-the-database/#comment-2994 Quite why the BBC is doing its best to appear as some kind of frightening Orwellian organisation at a time when hostility to it and the licence fee are at an all-time high is beyond me. This is also at a time when the old argument that you don't get adverts on the BBC - this being just one benefit of paying a licence fee - is manifestly not true. They even trail programmes that are about to start FFS. You're right about the adverts they should be running - the BBC is good value at twice the money for the services it provides and anyone who thinks otherwise should be shot. I expect to see this on a horribly-ubiquitous BBC infomercial quite soon. Quite why the BBC is doing its best to appear as some kind of frightening Orwellian organisation at a time when hostility to it and the licence fee are at an all-time high is beyond me.

This is also at a time when the old argument that you don’t get adverts on the BBC – this being just one benefit of paying a licence fee – is manifestly not true. They even trail programmes that are about to start FFS.

You’re right about the adverts they should be running – the BBC is good value at twice the money for the services it provides and anyone who thinks otherwise should be shot. I expect to see this on a horribly-ubiquitous BBC infomercial quite soon.

]]> By: Lefty http://www.wordsdept.co.uk/2008/04/20/its-all-in-the-database/comment-page-1/#comment-2993 Lefty Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:33:00 +0000 http://www.wordsdept.co.uk/2008/04/20/its-all-in-the-database/#comment-2993 The BBC, TV Licensing and Capita Group are all scabby companies but what makes me smile at these adverts is the fact the the general public are too docile to do anything other than pay. There are many campaign websites on the internet, I run a couple myself, what we need to do is group everybody together who objects and the just stop paying. Easy as 1, 2, 3 Groups 1) You Tube: http://www.youtube.com/group/bbcCampaign 2) FlickR: http://www.flickr.com/groups/bbcproducts/ 3) My Space: http://www.myspace.com/bbccampaign The BBC, TV Licensing and Capita Group are all scabby companies but what makes me smile at these adverts is the fact the the general public are too docile to do anything other than pay.

There are many campaign websites on the internet, I run a couple myself, what we need to do is group everybody together who objects and the just stop paying.

Easy as 1, 2, 3

Groups

1) You Tube: http://www.youtube.com/group/bbcCampaign

2) FlickR: http://www.flickr.com/groups/bbcproducts/

3) My Space: http://www.myspace.com/bbccampaign

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