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	<title>Comments on: Gilligan Dispatches three year old story for Channel 4</title>
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	<description>&#60;h2&#62;A words-based weblog by Manchester journalist David Quinn&#60;/h2&#62;</description>
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		<title>By: Liberal Democrat Voice &#187; Questions raised over Labour&#8217;s election financing in Manchester</title>
		<link>http://www.wordsdept.co.uk/2007/07/30/gilligan-dispatches-three-year-old-story-for-channel-4/comment-page-1/#comment-263</link>
		<dc:creator>Liberal Democrat Voice &#187; Questions raised over Labour&#8217;s election financing in Manchester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There&#8217;s an interesting online discussion about the piece here, including some exchanges with Andrew Gilligan himself. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: David Ottewell</title>
		<link>http://www.wordsdept.co.uk/2007/07/30/gilligan-dispatches-three-year-old-story-for-channel-4/comment-page-1/#comment-246</link>
		<dc:creator>David Ottewell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 15:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just seen this. I wanted to clarify that the story originated in the Manchester Evening News before being picked up by the BBC and others. It&#039;s been regularly reheated in the nationals ever since. 

Funnily enough, we put it on p2. Must have been a great news day...

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/129/129202_labour_facing_quiz_over_5000_donation.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just seen this. I wanted to clarify that the story originated in the Manchester Evening News before being picked up by the BBC and others. It&#8217;s been regularly reheated in the nationals ever since. </p>
<p>Funnily enough, we put it on p2. Must have been a great news day&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/129/129202_labour_facing_quiz_over_5000_donation.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/129/129202_labour_facing_quiz_over_5000_donation.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.wordsdept.co.uk/2007/07/30/gilligan-dispatches-three-year-old-story-for-channel-4/comment-page-1/#comment-169</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 18:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t agree with your claim that &quot;the &#039;finding&#039; we took to Tony Travers was not the Manchester case&quot;. In your final edit, the &quot;findings&quot; taken to Travers do relate specifically to Ask&#039;s donation to the Manchester Labour Party. The programme is edited like this: the facts of the Ask donation are explained, then there is an interview with Simon Ashley about the Ask case, then the sentence &quot;We took our findings...&quot; is heard on the voiceover, before Tony Travers speaks, apparently about this specific case. We then return to a statement from Ask defending its conduct. There&#039;s no other way of interpreting it: the segment on Ask was presented as a new finding. Watch the programme via the link on the post if you don&#039;t believe me - it&#039;s about 26 minutes in. (And you may well have discovered other new stuff - and good luck to you - but that&#039;s not what I was blogging about.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t agree with your claim that &#8220;the &#8216;finding&#8217; we took to Tony Travers was not the Manchester case&#8221;. In your final edit, the &#8220;findings&#8221; taken to Travers do relate specifically to Ask&#8217;s donation to the Manchester Labour Party. The programme is edited like this: the facts of the Ask donation are explained, then there is an interview with Simon Ashley about the Ask case, then the sentence &#8220;We took our findings&#8230;&#8221; is heard on the voiceover, before Tony Travers speaks, apparently about this specific case. We then return to a statement from Ask defending its conduct. There&#8217;s no other way of interpreting it: the segment on Ask was presented as a new finding. Watch the programme via the link on the post if you don&#8217;t believe me &#8211; it&#8217;s about 26 minutes in. (And you may well have discovered other new stuff &#8211; and good luck to you &#8211; but that&#8217;s not what I was blogging about.)</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Gilligan</title>
		<link>http://www.wordsdept.co.uk/2007/07/30/gilligan-dispatches-three-year-old-story-for-channel-4/comment-page-1/#comment-167</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Gilligan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 10:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another correction to your facts is needed, I&#039;m afraid. Not that impressive for a professional journalist. This time you are deliberately quoting selectively from the show in order to bolster your argument.  The &quot;finding&quot; we took to Tony Travers was not the Manchester case, our discovery - which WAS found by the programme - that there have been nine such recent cases where property developers have donated money to local parties just before those same developers made a planning application. You also forgot to mention that the programme featured two more of these nine cases, which have not been reported elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another correction to your facts is needed, I&#8217;m afraid. Not that impressive for a professional journalist. This time you are deliberately quoting selectively from the show in order to bolster your argument.  The &#8220;finding&#8221; we took to Tony Travers was not the Manchester case, our discovery &#8211; which WAS found by the programme &#8211; that there have been nine such recent cases where property developers have donated money to local parties just before those same developers made a planning application. You also forgot to mention that the programme featured two more of these nine cases, which have not been reported elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: One Man &#38; His Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.wordsdept.co.uk/2007/07/30/gilligan-dispatches-three-year-old-story-for-channel-4/comment-page-1/#comment-154</link>
		<dc:creator>One Man &#38; His Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Quinn versus Gilligan: Specialist Hack against Mainstream?...&lt;/strong&gt;

David Quinn, a journalist based in Manchester, posted on his blog that last night&#039;s Dispatches by Andrew Gilligan was actually trading off a three year old story. And David should know, because he covers the Manchester property market, which was......</description>
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<p>David Quinn, a journalist based in Manchester, posted on his blog that last night&#8217;s Dispatches by Andrew Gilligan was actually trading off a three year old story. And David should know, because he covers the Manchester property market, which was&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might not have said it, but it certainly implied it with the phrase &quot;our findings&quot;. As in: &quot;We took our findings to Tony Travers.&quot; I&#039;d suggest this phrase implies an exclusive or investigation of some sort and, arguably, distorts the fact that this is very old news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might not have said it, but it certainly implied it with the phrase &#8220;our findings&#8221;. As in: &#8220;We took our findings to Tony Travers.&#8221; I&#8217;d suggest this phrase implies an exclusive or investigation of some sort and, arguably, distorts the fact that this is very old news.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Gilligan</title>
		<link>http://www.wordsdept.co.uk/2007/07/30/gilligan-dispatches-three-year-old-story-for-channel-4/comment-page-1/#comment-151</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Gilligan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 11:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The programme did not say or imply that the Manchester story had been &quot;discovered&quot; by Dispatches or was an exclusive. Please get your facts right before you attack other people&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The programme did not say or imply that the Manchester story had been &#8220;discovered&#8221; by Dispatches or was an exclusive. Please get your facts right before you attack other people&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://www.wordsdept.co.uk/2007/07/30/gilligan-dispatches-three-year-old-story-for-channel-4/comment-page-1/#comment-148</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 08:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So they were cleared of wrongdoing, and therefore nothing untoward took place?  As if.  The entire system is corrupt from top to bottom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So they were cleared of wrongdoing, and therefore nothing untoward took place?  As if.  The entire system is corrupt from top to bottom.</p>
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